Bubba Alleges Conspiracy Against HRC
Victories are increasingly empty and lucid arguments for staying in the race are harder to come by. The South Carolina race-bating, fear mongering, even the 3 a.m. phone ad didn’t cut it. Hmmm. Have we tried the conspiracy angle?
According to former President Bill Clinton, what we have here is a simple matter of respect, or more accurately, disrespect. That’s why his wife isn’t the presidential nominee of the Democratic party right now.
Implying sexism, media bias and broad cover-ups, Bill Clinton says he has “never seen a candidate treated so disrespectfully just for running,” and “she will win the general election if you nominate her. They’re just trying to make sure you don’t.”
They’re out there, Bubba says! They!
“I can’t believe it. It is just frantic the way they are trying to push and pressure and bully all these superdelegates to come out,” Bill Clinton said during a South Dakota campaign stop on Sunday.
The former chief executive also suggested some were trying to “cover up” Sen. Hillary Clinton’s chances of winning in some of the key states that Democrats will have to win in the November general election.
Here’s how he put it: “‘Oh, this is so terrible: The people they want her. Oh, this is so terrible: She is winning the general election, and he is not. Oh my goodness, we have to cover this up.’”
Bill Clinton did not expound on who he was accusing.
Echoing a familiar theme, the former president added that his wife has not been given the respect she deserves as a legit presidential candidate.
“She is winning the general election today and he is not, according to all the evidence,” Clinton said. “Her only position was, ‘Look, if I lose I’ll be a good team player. We will all try to win, but let’s let everybody vote, and count every vote.’”
The former president suggested if his wife ended the primary season June 3 with an edge in the popular vote, it would be significant.
However, with an advantage of nearly 450,000 total votes - 16,685,941 to 16,227,514, not including Florida and Michigan - it is unlikely rival Barack Obama will lose his lead in that tally with just three races left.
The current requirement to claim the Democratic presidential nomination is 2,026 delegates, a formula that does not take into account delegates from Florida and Michigan, whose contests were barred by the party.
But if those votes were counted as cast, Hillary Clinton would still trail Barack Obama in the overall delegate count. Obama has officially clinched a majority of the Democratic pledged delegates as of May 20.
The former president said Sunday that the media had unfairly attacked his wife since the Iowa caucuses way back on January 3.
“If you notice, there hasn’t been a lot of publicity on these polls I just told you about,” he said. “It is the first time you’ve heard it? Why do you think that is? Why do you think? Don’t you think if the polls were the reverse and he was winning the Electoral College against Senator McCain and Hillary was losing it, it would be blasted on every television station?”
“You would know it wouldn’t you? It wouldn’t be a little secret. There is another electoral college poll I saw yesterday had her over 300 electoral votes.”
NOTE TO BILL CLINTON: Hillary Clinton isn’t running against John McCain, and the Democratic primary process doesn’t actually use electoral votes. Maybe you missed that memo? We appreciate the spin job, and think Mrs. C. has every right to stay in the race until the winner is officially crowned. But when you’re talking about hypothetical polls you “saw yesterday” and alleging bogus media conspiracies, it’s fairly difficult to take you seriously. Sincerely, Donkey Dish
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May 26th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
This is another of the Clinton’s ploy. Instead of she doing the crying, Bill is doing the crying for her instead. Pathetic! Can you imagine her RFK spin. And to top it off she used the unthinkable word:ass…..! Hillary needs a vaction! She is going crazy and it is a pity her closets advisers can’t see it. I hope for her sake she does not have a nervous breakdown. It sure looks imminent. Her Advisers are taking her for a money ride!
Hillary please follow the DNC rules! If you were in the lead you would certianly ask them to put a stop to the fiasco. I am tired and I am sure you are too!
May 26th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Clinton is beyond vile.
Please contact Howard Dean (deanh@dnc.org) and Nancy Pelosi (http://speaker.house.gov/) to let them know how you feel. You can also go to this website and lobby the Uncommitted Superdelegates in each state (https://www.lobbydelegates.com/)
Please take action.
May 26th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
Funny….when Obama had few superdelegates and Hillary was way ahead with them, you never heard Bill complaining about them deciding so early. And as for that popular vote argument, reminds me of a joke about accountant. What’s the bottom line? What do you want it to be. Yes, there is one permutation of the numbers that puts Hillary ahead. That is…if you count Florida and Michigan (give Obama a big fat zero in Michigan) and don’t count the caucus results. I’m not saying she can’t continue and have people vote for her, but please don’t make it sound like there is more than a snowball’s chance in hell that she can get the nomination without some Clinton sleaze move.
May 26th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
I’ve tried to give the Clinton’s the benefit of dount when listening to them. Back in Dec ‘07 HRC would have been my preference over any Republican, but Obama gave many of us another option worth considering.
The Clinton’s have continued to belittle anyone who challenges them and talk down to the voters to the point where I can’t vote for HRC and many of my friends feel the same way.
Bill is just full of it, full of himself, full of hot air, full of stuff that doesn’t smell too pleasant. He really believes people are going to listen to him after all the garbage he’s spewed.
Too late Bill, too many lies, probably the best thing you could do to help HRC is to keep your mouth shut.
May 26th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
They are both “inhaling”…..
May 26th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
It’s this kind of petty whining that has completely turned me off from the Clintons. These comments are so childish that it is hard to believe that a very successful and very well-like former president even said it. I am really tired of the litany of “conspiracies” that the Clinton camp has come up with week after week. I used to think that the Clintons were a campaigning machine but now I realize that the emperor has no clothes.
It is also this attitude that must preclude Hillary Clinton from the VP spot. In addition to it being a bad idea to have two Senators on the ticket (IMHO), she would only serve as a distraction and would not be able to serve the President as a VP. There are many good alternatives out there. If you want a strong woman with executive experience, how about Gov. Janet Napolitano from Arizona or Kathleen Sebulius from Kansas. Another interesting option is Evan Bayh. Now, I know that he is a Senator (D-Indiana), but he was a much admired Governor in the very republican state.
What would Hillary bring to the party? I think that Hillary has a lot of potential…but in the Senate. She is a self-proclaimed policy wonk and should use her considerable resources to really make a difference in America.
Oh well, what do I know?
May 26th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
I am fairly sure that any disrespect directed Hillary’s way started with a husband who couldn’t keep his pants on. Meanwhile, I have to laugh when the Clintons constantly pull the “giant conspiracy” theory out of their back pocket when faced with situations they don’t like… whether it is a single woman named Monica or a nation’s preference for a man named Obama
May 26th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
I understand his argument, from the start they have been telling Hillary to stop! With every stoke of the brush there has been
disrepect for her, and it’s more of the same, and they keep
brewing Obama as the Candidate. I feel like Bill does, Hillary
will WIN!
May 26th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
The Clintons are pathetic. I suppose this is another ‘vast right-wing’ conspiracy theory, as she stated during Bill’s term when he left a stain on the oval office.
The reason HRC is losing is because she is an unlikeable person. She trying to win the nomination on the coat-tails of her husband. She is losing any respectability that she might have left. The Clintons are very good at using other people to get what they want at no expense to themselves.
Bill is still trying to establish what his legacy will be. Unfortunately, when one thinks of his presidency, the first thing that comes to mind is two words, “Monica Lewinsky”. In my opinion, he would like to be back in the White House, but cannot run for president, so he is pushing HRC to win and he will become a pseudo-president.
I have no respect for either one of them. Had HRC divorced this extra baggage that she calls a husband, I probably would have respected her. He has been an embarrassment to this country and to his wife and daughter. I only hope that one day they both see that.
I would not vote for her for the mere fact that he would come along with the package. I think the both of them, together, pose a great danger and they will stop at nothing to get what they want and feel they deserve.
May 26th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Nothing disturbs me more than “they are out to get me”…never specifically saying who the “they are”! Is it CNN, FOX, MSNBC, ABC, LA Times, NY Times, or any of the 50 STATES’ news media….but just throwing allegations out there with no specificity is criminal in my view! Hey, your wife is a liar, phoney, provocateur, and down right dishonest politician and the rules will not be changed no matter how many allegation you and she make! I sick of you and your baggage and I am sick of her and her terrible running of this PIMARY SEASON! Over and OUT!
May 26th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Furthermore, I am an Indiana Alumnus, and you owe my university 50,000 bucks…you guys have earned over a 100 million bucks..PAY YOUR DAMN BILL.
May 26th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
electess: I understand his argument, from the start they have been telling Hillary to stop! With every stoke of the brush there has been
disrepect for her, and it’s more of the same, and they keep
brewing Obama as the Candidate. I feel like Bill does, Hillary
will WIN!
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You can feel anyway you choos too, but she has already lost, unfortunately the three of you are still in denial. Let me help you understand something. Nominations are won by having the most pledged delegates, do you not understand that? Popular vote does not count in primaries. Now you, Bill, and Hillary can spin this anyway you choose too, but pledged delegates win nominations.
I do not know why it is so hard for you to understand that, I understand why it is hard for Bill and Hill because they can’t believe that they F-cked up and lost what should have been hers, with the name recognition. But that is what happens when you maintain an elitist attitude in contest, you slip and forget that you are not invencible.
May 26th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
The only person that has really gotten away with things in this process is McCain. Both Obama and Hillary have been disrespected by the media. Hillary said to Obama, “if you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen,” it would be nice if she and Bill took their own advice.
Supporters of Hillary seem to overlook everything she saids, be it good or bad and then attempt to project the blame on Obama. Obama does not control the media. You would think that Hillary does at times, from the way Obama has been treated as well. I don’t see him carrying on a whinning campaign regardless to what the media has done to him.
Hillary wanted to run against a man, so she should toughen up and show us what real powerful women do to get the job done, none of that Rocky shit, show us what real women do to show that they are best for the job. All this crying about sexism, being treated badly, consipriacy, and the like is not what we need in a president.
Will you cry when Osama Bin Laden talks about you like a bitch? If so, will he care? I mean be for real. Bill did this too you, no other man screwed you like Bill, he sabbatoged your candidacy and now wants to cover it up by saying anything to keep the heat off himself. HILLARY YOUR HUSBAND INTENTIONALLY SCREWED YOU ON THIS PRESIDENTIAL RUN, THANK HIM BY DIVORCING HIM FINALLY!
May 26th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
Could you imagine 8 years of Bubba pulling shananigan’s like this behind the scenes. No thank you!
May 26th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
Yes Bill, the whole world is against the Clintons. It is really getting kind of sad to watch this. Why do they continue to grasp at these straws? So much for a dignified exit.
May 26th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
Wah, Wah, Wah. I’m ready on day one. Not
May 26th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
Why bother with the primaries when we can just use the polls? In fact, lets also pick the presidency based on the polls…. the ones the Clintons choose are the “correct” ones!
May 26th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
I am amazed at the sheer evil of the press-sponsored, communist-inspired, fluoride-prescribing conspiracy that is keeping us from knowing the truth about Saint Hillary Clinton and her ability to fix everything everywhere. She is clearly the best candidate, especially if you want another multi-year dose of Bill Clinton’s posturing and fact-challenged diatribes. The truth is that she was a good candidate who ran a crummy campaign and can’t face the final result. Bill Clinton can’t face it, either. Hopefully, Senator Clinton will come to the end of the primary season and respond to the math by acknowledging Senator Obama as the likely nominee. Failing that, she’s toast when she heads back to the Senate.
May 26th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
Help me Bill. You guys signed off on the rules regarding FL and MI. We all believe that the FL and MI Delegates should be seated but you can’t have your cake and eat it too. You sound like John Kerry. We were for the rules but now we are against the rules because we received more votes in Fl and MI. Hillary has gotten alot of respect in these Primariers. She has made history just as Obama has. However I thought the nomination process was about delegates. The person who meets the requirements wins.I didn’t hear any protesting when you guys were the front runners.Too late to call foul. I have no problem with Hillary staying in the race until the end. Thanks.
May 26th, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Clintons keep saying they have the electoral college votes needed in the fall because of the states they have won-FL (unfairly), MI, PA, OH. But, the media didn’t go with that analogy because they believe that other states that Obama won will give him the edge - Colorado, Idaho, Minnesota, (Texas), Wyoming, Oregon, etc. AND they are not convinced that Obama can’t win MI, PA, OH in the fall. The primary and the general election are very different, especially when there is only one nominee. Some Clinton voters will switch to McCain, but true Democrats who believe in the policies (instead of some glass ceiling) will vote on party lines.
May 26th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Sounds like a LEFT wing conspiricy this time!
May 26th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
Finally responses to the “Pragmatic Duo” that make sense!! I thought I was from another Planet or something with my views on Bill and Hill. They are a disgrace. Her constant state of elation and constant smile is disturbing. No one is that happy all the time. Based on my professional assessment she has some mental health issues and so does he.
May 26th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
Well, let’s see…Hillary must win! Bill needs her to win! Afterall, he’s made a lot of promises to those foreign governments who have paid him millions. They know Obama won’t go for these things, so their best bet is to fight hard to win the White House back so they are in control. We’ve heard the Columibian government paid him well…I’m sure there is more of the same.
I’m an Obama supporter, but I think like the Clintons, I just don’t like their politics. However, there are a lot of people out there who simply don’t like Hillary. Up until now, most people have liked Bill and many have disliked Hillary. I heard an analyst on Political Capitol say this weekend that a lot of people don’t like Hillary because she is “nasty.” I guess that’s why I can say I like her but not her politics.
May 26th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
Well, let’s see…Hillary must win! Bill needs her to win! Afterall, he’s made a lot of promises to those foreign governments who have paid him millions. They know Obama won’t go for these things, so their best bet is to fight hard to win the White House back so they are in control. We’ve heard the Columibian government paid him well…I’m sure there is more of the same.
I’m an Obama supporter, but I like the Clintons, I just don’t like their politics; however, there are a lot of people out there who simply don’t like Hillary. Up until now, most people have liked Bill and many have disliked Hillary. I heard an analyst on Political Capitol say this weekend that a lot of people don’t like Hillary because she is “nasty.” I guess that’s why I can say I like her but not her politics.
May 26th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
Well, when she made the assasination comment I thought she took it way to far. I thought she must be a horrible person. Now I think she is a desperate horrible person.
May 26th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Two weeks ago CNN hit the wrong button on the election map and showed the actual precincts that each candidate won. The majority of the country on the map was in Hillary’s favor with a scattering of dark blue dots running across it to show Obama’s wins. The announcers were talking to each other for a few seconds without realizing that they had left the map up. When one of them glanced at it, they quickly changed it. I have yet to see them reshow the actual precincts won map again.
No matter who you are supporting, I think we have to be able to look at the truth and not get caught up in this good guy, bad guy thing. Let’s be honest, all three candidates are savy politicians or they wouldn’t have gotten this far.
Let’s be able to look at them for all that they are and all that they are not, and then choose who we really feel will do the best job. We don’t need a saint and we don’t need another guy we’d like to have a beer with….. we need an intelligent, sophisticated president who will work hard and do what is in the best interest of us. Please choose intelligently over emotionally.
May 26th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
It was Clinton who said the Super Delegates should make up their own mind. They’ve spoken and Obama is 49 Delegates from clenching the nomination. Gore and Carter will be among them after June 3rd. With half of the remaining delegates, and those two, Obama will need a very slim margin on the remaining to be nominated. Plus Clinton’s popular voter pushes out states that voted by caucus and a majority for Obama.
She decieves and speaks fear, we as the people believe and have hope. Please make the choice based on where we are taking the best interest in this country (not Clinton, Bush, or Anhausher-Busch pockets). We need solutions that will help the people, who don’t have extra dollars in their budget for a $20 dollar increase for the purchase of tank of gas. This is a time for real solutions, from the bottom up.
May 26th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
There has been something wrong for awhile with WJC. And it is not political. It is physical. He needs to see a doctor. Google: brain damage bypass heart surgery. This is not the Bill Clinton who knows how to politic. Something is physically wrong with his brain, probably caused by his heart issues. I hope someone can connect the dots and help him quick….we need him to get healthy and be the seasoned politician and not the man in trouble.
May 26th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
t seems to me quite obvious the media and DNC orchestration of Senator Obama for President. The fact that you may not is not suprising. The average viewer of this election is told over and over that Senator Clinton can not win when that is not true, and you believe it when are told it so many times. The DNC is now between a rock and a hard place. Senator Obama will have the pledge delegate lead and Senator Clinton the popular vote. To avoid embarrassment they are “coercing” super delegates to jump on the Obama train so as not to deal with Michigan and Florida and their “nazi” decision not to count our votes.
Senator Clintn wins New Hampshire. Out come the Kennedys to support Obama. Senator Clinton wins Pennsylvania. Out comes Bill Richardson to support Obama. Senator Clinton wins Indiana. Out comes John Edwards to support Obama. Isnt Senator Edwards constiuency voting for Clinton? Didnt New Mexico go to Clinton? Didnt Massachusetts vote for Clinton by 30%???
What happened to Obama saying the super delegates should support the pledge delegates of their States? I doubt he would admit that now. But he wont have to because the media wont ask him a tough question. Did he disown his grandmother after disowning Reverend Wright? hmmmmm.
Lets all think about these things before we spout off. Hilliary has the electoral map sewn up. Obama does not. That means she wins in November and he does not. If he is the nominee, he needs her more than she needs him.
DNC. Count our votes in Florida. All of them.
May 26th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
Mike: The Primary voting determines the nominee based on the number of pledged delegates not popular votes; Obama has the largest number of pledged delegates and popular votes. He didn’t campaign in Florida and his name was not on the ballot in Ohio. Hill is using “fuzzy” math when she states she has the most popular votes and she states this to further her argument about the Electoral College votes. She forgetting this fact: There have been elections in which candidates have accumulated the majority of popular votes during the General Election but lost the election because they didn’t have the majorigy of Electoral College votes.
In addition, Bill Richardson cast his support for Mr. Obama several months before the Pennsylvania Primary. He stated he decided to support Mr. Obama because the Clinton’s believe they are “entitled” to once again reside in the White House. I suspect he also didn’t like the fact that Bill showed up at his doorstep on New Years Day, uninvited, to watch the Super Bowl. Bill must have felt “entitled” to do that as well. Also, Mr. Obama stated he could NOT disown his grandmother.
How can she have the Electoral Map sown up when there has been no General Election? Has she got it “sewn-up” the same way she imagines the popular vote is what determines the nominee during the Priamaries? She is basing her assumptions about her winning Electoral votes in certain states based on no GOP candidate running in those states. If that method is to be used, there would be no need to hold the General Election in November.
What Bill and Hill are forgetting: Democratic Superdelagates and the DNC so want to win this election that if they truly thought that Hillary was their best bet, they would be encouraging Mr. Obama to concede based on Hill and Bills assumptions about the Electoral College votes. His constituents would be the ones yelling “CONSPIRACY”! There would be many discussions on CNN, MSNBC, and FOX that would focus on his inability to win the nomination and the Presidency.
These discussions would focus on his inability to win hard working white folks votes, Reagan Democrats, Independents, and older white women. The problem is he won them in Iowa, Nebraska, Oregon, North Carolina, Mississippi, Illinois, and Missouri, etc.
Hill and Bill will probably take this to the convention and prolong that process as well. They had no clue when they started this they would be in this kind of a battle. They thought they had this one in the bag so to speak. Sorry Hill and Bill you are no longer the king and queen of the Democratic Party. Call it a Day - PLEASE!!!
May 27th, 2008 at 4:57 am
Beating up on the Clintons….for what?….life was much better back in the 90’s….and Hillary will do even a better job this time around….why are we gambling on this? Fight on Hillary and Bill…I won’t forget the good ol days when President Clinton was at the helm….when I am treated right, I am a repeat customer.
May 27th, 2008 at 5:15 am
Every day there is a new blame as to why Hilary is losing the nomination. I used to be fully in support of the Clintons. Now, they are a major national embarrassment.
She has proven that she would be even more of an unstable leader than George Bush and that is saying something.
The Clinton legacy is now trash. There only hope is Chelsea.
It was Hilary who said this would be over by Feb. 5 and now she can’t believe that she will not be it.
May 27th, 2008 at 5:56 am
It is sad and scary … the longer the Clintons stay in politics the more their psychoses are revealed. Bill and Hillary — didn’t your parents ever teach you that lying is not nice? Just because you want something doesn’t mean you can have it….making everyone feel sorry for you with conspiracy hallucinations (she did it for him when he was in office and now he’s trying to do it for her)doesn’t make you smart — it makes you pathetic. Go get some therapy and stay out of Barack’s way.
May 27th, 2008 at 7:58 am
Presumption, entitlement and elitism.
That sums up the Clintons. I know they try to act like they identify with the common man but living in an upscale suburb of NYC and making $100 million is not quite the average Joe.
They have consistently pulled prank after prank this entire election and either blamed it on Obama or acted like they never did anything wrong.
As far as I’m concerned she’s history. She has a lot of nerve to pose the idea of an assassination and act like she didn’t mean anything by it. Then why didn’t she just say:
“Well, it rains a lot in June” or
“There are a lot of tornados in June” or
“Gas prices will be as high as ever in June”
But to reference a past candidate being assassinated as for her reason to stay in CLEARLY implies that she is saying Obama might be assassinated so I’m staying in the race.
With her and Bill’s history it’s no wonder this has finally come up. Take a look at all the so-called “suicides” during Bill’s administration. I wonder how these wealthy, affluent, educated, and successful people all of a sudden hated their lives and decided to call it quits. HORSE PUCKEY!!!
And now with the Clintons’ fraud trial, I am hoping it lands both of them in jail. THe media will not mention it. I wonder why. If Hillary gets into the White House they can make this trial go away but if she loses the nomination she may end up in some real hot water for ripping off a campaign contributor.
May 27th, 2008 at 10:22 am
The real issue is not how well Clinton, Obama, or McCain might do in the closely divided battleground states, but that we shouldn’t have battleground states and spectator states in the first place. Every vote in every state should be politically relevant in a presidential election. And, every vote should be equal. We should have a national popular vote for President in which the White House goes to the candidate who gets the most popular votes in all 50 states.
The National Popular Vote bill would guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states (and DC). The bill would take effect only when enacted, in identical form, by states possessing a majority of the electoral votes—that is, enough electoral votes to elect a President (270 of 538). When the bill comes into effect, all the electoral votes from those states would be awarded to the presidential candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states (and DC).
The major shortcoming of the current system of electing the President is that presidential candidates have no reason to poll, visit, advertise, organize, campaign, or worry about the voter concerns in states where they are safely ahead or hopelessly behind. The reason for this is the winner-take-all rule which awards all of a state’s electoral votes to the candidate who gets the most votes in each separate state. Because of this rule, candidates concentrate their attention on a handful of closely divided “battleground” states. Two-thirds of the visits and money are focused in just six states; 88% on 9 states, and 99% of the money goes to just 16 states. Two-thirds of the states and people are merely spectators to the presidential election.
Another shortcoming of the current system is that a candidate can win the Presidency without winning the most popular votes nationwide.
The National Popular Vote bill has been approved by 17 legislative chambers (one house in Colorado, Arkansas, Maine, North Carolina, and Washington, and two houses in Maryland, Illinois, Hawaii, California, and Vermont). It has been enacted into law in Hawaii, Illinois, New Jersey, and Maryland. These states have 50 (19%) of the 270 electoral votes needed to bring the law into effect.
See http://www.NationalPopularVote.com
May 27th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Quote from Mike: Out comes John Edwards to support Obama. Isnt Senator Edwards constiuency voting for Clinton?
No, Mike, they aren’t. John Edwards is from North Carolina, which went for Obama. (I can hear the response now: I didn’t mean THAT constituency. Of course not. You meant the other one, the one that supports your argument).
Obama never said Superdelegates should follow the votes of their states. He said he understood when they did that. He said the Superdelegates should follow the will of the people.
Clinton does not have the poular vote. See the neutral site http://www.realclearpolitics.com Only with one particular spin can the Pop. Vote be counted in her favor, but in all other sane cases, Obama has the popular vote. Also shows other polls which negate everything Bill Clinton said. Did I mention that the site is neutral, not partisan? Obama is ahead in national race, he’s ahead of in polls McCain in Ohio, Pennsylvania, California (all states the Clintons claim belong to Hillary but not Obama). He also currently beats McCain in Wisconsin, unlike Clinton. Look at the numbers. The people want him. Let’s finish the race and then move on.
May 27th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
What should Hillary Clinton do next?
As any sensible person would do:
1. If she’s nominated, run as a Presidential candidate;
2. If she’s not nominated, but picked as Obama’s VP, run with Obama;
3. Otherwise, she should run as an Independent, just like Joe Lieberman did, and win the Presidency. She has as much a chance, if not more, as anyone else on the ballot.
May 27th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
“She is winning the general election”
Bill Clinton sounds like Saddam Husseins Information Minister “Baghdad Bob”
May 27th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Bill, who has disrespected Hilliary more than you, can you say Monica.
May 27th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
How Dare Bill Clinton use the word disrespect. He disrespected her more than anyone. He CHEATED on Hillary. All of a sudden, Hillary is a fighter. As a woman, I have no respect for her. How does she think she can run a country, and cannot take care of her husband. She’s weak, stubborn, and needs to bow out. I also think she should stop using this sexism claim. She needs to understand the country has not forgotten about the 90’s. I feel only a man has the strength to run the country. Does she really think other countries around the world would take her seriously?
May 27th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
To add, I would not vote for Barack, if he nominates her for VP to stop her from whinning, and crying. I do not want her near the white house. period. To all of u Hillary women voters. Stop this man bashing scheme against Obama. She has shown more disrespect to him as a man claiming she is the stronger candidate. Just because she is losing she’s making these claims. This isn’t personally, it is for the best of the country. Do u really want to support a woman, who would do anything to win? Keep changing the rules? Make statements about assasanations? These comments doesn’t show strength. It shows weakness. Stop making this a woman thing. it simply disgusting.
May 27th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
I GET SO TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT THAT RACIST, ANTI AMERICAN. IM SORRY YOU JUST DONT REPERSENT YOUR CHURCH AND YOUR PASTOR FOR 20YRS BE HIS FRIEND, LET HIM SHARE IN YOUR LIFE FOR THAT LONG. THEN DISASSOCIATE YOURSELF FROM HIM,BASICALLY BEFRIEND SO YOU CAN RUN FOR PRESIDENT. YOU WANT THAT KINDA MAN, BEING YOUR PRESIDENT. oR HOW ABOUT THE KINDA GUY THAT TAKES KICK BACKS FROM HIS CORRUPT ASSOCIATES. HELL HE’S ALREADY KNOWS HOW TO BUY HIS WAY INTO OFFICE. OR HOW ABOUT THAT HOMEGROWN RETIRED TERRORIST FRIEND, THERES NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU BEING FRIENDS WITH AN EX-TERRORIST AND RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT RIGHT.
YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GET A GRIP. THE CLINTONS HAVE WHAT THIS COUNTRY NEEDS TO RECOVER AND YOU OBAMA FANS ARE BLIND TO THIS BOGUS ASS RIGGED ELECTION. AND NOT EVERYBODY VOTED DURING THE PRIMARYS. I KNOW OF AT LEAST 162 CLINTON SUPPORTERS JUST IN MY FAMILY,FRIENDS & ASSOCIATE CIRCLE THAT DIDNT GET TO VOTE. bUT WILL BE VOTING IN THE GENERAL ELECTION HERE IN TEXAS. ITS CLINTON OR WERE VOTING MCCAINE. NO OBAMA! IM A DEMOCRATE BUT IF OBAMAS ON THE TICKET I GUESS ILL BE A REPUBLICIAN FOR A DAY.
I WANT SOMEONE I KNOW IN OFFICE, NOT SOME STRANGE A** LYING MAN. THAT WILL SAY WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET IN OFFICE.
VOTE HILLARY CLINTON 2008
May 27th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
What is so scary to most people about someone black speaking the truth. Racism is real. Please stop ignoring the fact blacks have been treated unfairly. just deal with. If Reverend Wright said some things that might have offended u, go do your research on black history. Everyone wants to attack this man on his own experiences he has dealt with. He lived through the civil rights movement. Served this country in uniform. He has the right to feel the way he wants. I do not agree with his comments, but i have compassion for him as an elder, who has seen alot in the black community. Let’s stop acting like racism doesn’t thrive in households today. We have to admit the truth, and sometimes it hurts. But let the truth be told, this country still to this day has not honestly adresses racism. Until we openly talk about it and move past. We will never understand one another.
May 27th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Yes, Bill, as America’s First “Black” President you should realize this whole thing is just another “well-timed conspiracy perpetrated by The Man to keep Hillary down”………….
May 27th, 2008 at 11:44 pm
Here’s a theory for you all…
what if Bill made a deal with HW (otherwise known as 41) to get Hillary elected if she promised not to investigate or prosecute GW (otherwise known as 43)?
Think about it.
Bush-Clinton-Bush–Clinton again, somethings just not right.
What if THAT WAS the plan, that’s why they put in McCain not expecting Obama to come along and take off like he has and now everyone’s scrambling.
Obama 08
May 28th, 2008 at 11:55 am
Hillary and Bill continually say they want ALL THE VOTES counted. We have to seat Forida and Michigan, I have the lead in the popular vote, in it till June, everyones voice must be heard…etc, etc.
So explain this: Why doesn’t Hillary want count the votes in the CAUCUS states? Her “lead” only includes the votes from PRIMARY states, thus EXCLUDING selective votes from the states she openly has said don’t really count!!??
She will do anything to win…cheat, lie, deceive, divide, ridicule, embellish, flip, flop, tailor “her voice” in every state…sounds like the last 8 years doesn’t it?
OBAMA ‘08
May 28th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
Come on they cannot leave out the CAUCUS states. She lost long ago. It is time for her to GO
May 28th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
Simply put - She and He are not to be trusted!!!!!